Yes, Smoking Cigarettes in the USVI is Still Legal. And that's something to be ashamed of not something to be proud of.

"Smoking harms nearly every organ of the body; causing many diseases and reducing the health of smokers in general. The adverse health effects from cigarette smoking account for an estimated 438,000 deaths, or nearly 1 of every 5 deaths, each year in the United States. More deaths are caused each year by tobacco use than by all deaths from human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), illegal drug use, alcohol use, motor vehicle injuries, suicides, and murders combined."

My rules for flying in the USVI.
If someone waves at you, always wave back.
If someone flips you a bird, always ignore them.
If a lady flashes you, always circle back for a better look.

I am going back to St Croix to live and to enjoy smoking in most places, that is one of the reason's I am going back. Less government interference with most things, including smoking.

I am really getting tired of all the self righteous non-smokers and ex-smokers. Why don't you get a life? I am sure there are other things to harp on or work on to do that, try world peace or world hunger. Some people are just never happy and once all the bans on smoking are in place and smokers have no more rights then the self righteous will go on and find something else to gripe about.

I am a considerate smoker and if you don't smoke I won't even smoke in my car if it bothers you, but outside on the beach? Get real. I don't leave my butts on the beach in fact we try to clean up all the bottles and cans and whatever else other people before us leave. We have even brought rakes from home to rake up the dropped leaves.

I know people who died from lung cancer who smoked and others who never smoked or lived with a smoker. I am from Louisiana, cancer alley. I don't believe all the garbage about second hand smoke. I quit twice and got fat, which is worse for me, obeseity or smoking? Gotta die sometime of something, you want me to quit so I can die healthier?

I would never have left the beach, we are not in New Jersey, thank God, but my ex husband is living there!!!!!! There is justice in this world.

Thanks for letting me use your forum to vent!!!!

Remarkable post. My first thought was that it must be a troll, but now I'm taking it at face value.

It was meant at face value

Posted by: rotorhead (IP Logged)
Date: September 22, 11:03PM
"People who smoke are the same as people who litter or who pour toxic chemicals into streams and rivers. And the people who say leave them alone and let the smoke are the same ones who say nothing when other people litter or polute. "

Rotorhead is a very appropriate name for you...you could probably add "loose rotor". Hope you don't have the same tunnel vision when you fly. It's amazing, I was able to quit smoking buy I still get a hanker'n to throw garbage out my car window and just yesterday I caught myself dumping toxic chemicals into streams and rivers. Your noise and pollution though is justified because you enjoy it...and of course you are soaring with eagles...maybe chopping one up once in awhile but no biggie. I wish I was near perfect like I used to be when I was only guilty of spitting on the sidewalk and walking on the neighbors grass. I'm going to try and do better.

Sandcrab,

I know that you and a lot of other smokers are in denial. You tell yourselves over and over that your smoking is your business and that us do gooders with "tunnel vision" should mind our own business. Well it is our business. If you were smoking at home it would be one thing but smoking in public is another.

The Centers for Disease Control, the American Medical Association and The Environmental Protection Agency among others all say that second hand smoke is dangerous. I know that you don't believe it but I do. I think that they have better data than you do.

It wasn't long ago that Driving While Intoxicated was not a big deal. I'm sure that a lot of people who drink and drive felt the same way as smokers. If people didn't like drunk drivers then move into the other lane. But a lot of people thought that drunk driving was a bad idea. Dangerous not only for the driver but for others around them. So those do gooders at MADD and such fought for tougher laws. Do you stand up in favor of drunk driving too?

Well all of those agencies mentioned above say that smoking is a much bigger killer than drunk driving yet you still defend it. It's called denial!

"The Centers for Disease Control, the American Medical Association and The Environmental Protection Agency among others all say that second hand smoke is dangerous. I know that you don't believe it but I do. I think that they have better data than you do."

Well as I mentioned before. I no longer smoke even though it is still legal. No, I don't have to much faith in the above mentioned organizations. Why do we believe in them 100% and put no creedence in the CIA, FBI, and IRS? Data? Political?

If I believed the extreme end of the second-hand smoke crowd, all my friends and relatives would have dropped dead years ago when every car, bar, cafe, work place, and most homes were full of second hand smoke. Not a good thing but I don't think doomsday either. I'm more afraid of people driving while talking on cell phones, lightning, lime disease, aids contaminated blood, bird flu, the common cold, and loose rotors from a UH-1 helicopter.

Back to smoking again. In the late fifties, my grandfather had asthma and was told to quit farming because of the grain dust. The doctor also recommended he smoke to aid his asthma. He tried to start smoking Chesterfields but didn't like it and just continued with his Copenhagen chewing tobacco. He made it to 85 and died peacefully from natural causes...whatever that means. Also, not really related but as late as 1947, you could still get a chiropracter license "mail order...now you need certification. Your trusted government agencies also used to send cigarettes in government issued rations to the soldiers.

MADD is good.

If some of us folks didn't dump some garbage once in awhile, archealogists (sp) would be out of a job.

Bye the way, I sent you a nice post on your St Croix pics.

And in case anyone is wondering, there are now two people who use "Becky" as their screen name - and the last one wasn't me......but it might have been.....or not.

Rotorhead, are you just going to harangue people until all smoking ceases? You know, I'll let you in on a secret. People will stop when they get ready and not a minute before. I am sure the CDC, AMA, and EPA appreciate all the press, though. They probably weren't doing enough on their own and needed the help. Government agencies usually DO need help.

All right Rotor, I’ve read all the posts and you have repeatedly asked if we accept the following: “Do you believe that the CDC is lying about the effects of second hand smoke?”

Maybe, maybe not. If you remember it was the Surgeon General Everett Koop who started all this. Koop was, and still is, a devout hater of smoking. That being said, how many pharmaceutical medicines have been cleared by our government only to be reversed by the same government and THEN to be reversed again?

Who has conducted all of the tests? Pharmaceutical companies conduct tests and can and have had tests skewed to their favor. So too has the “government” conducted tests and can and have tests skewed to their favor.

The two congress-critters that had the lighter ban put into effect (also smoking haters) for airplane travel was just lifted by the DHS as not a necessary ban.

And don’t even get me started with the DHS!

The invasion in Iraq was to get the WMDs Saddam had-where are the weapons?

The friendly fire of the football player (sorry his name escapes me) as originally reported, was a lie.

The too many cases from the Vietnam War as first reported, were lies.

So do I believe our government lies? I take EVERYTHING coming from our US government with a lot of grains of salt.

It seems most smokers are conspiracy theorists.

Did you see the article in the Virgin Islands Daily News today?

http://www.virginislandsdailynews.com/index.pl/article_home?id=17615040

HI rotorhead,
You think Tim Fields (reporter) was reading this thread. I think Islander should make a statement like the networks," You heard it first on VINOW". LOL

Wow! What a place to come when I am in a bad mood and looking for a fight. I have found a place where nobody knows me and I can sound off all I want. I wonder if the person who started this website saw all this coming, it sure makes for interesting reading when I don't have anything better to do.

Becky, I will identify myself as Beckymac52 from now on so they won't think it is you when I sound off.

Rotorhead you are a jerk.

Sandcrab I like you, all the crap that the government has put out is just that crap. As soon as they beat the smokers down they will start on someother cause maybe we can get drinking banned again or lets legislate someother bs cause that everybody can jump on. How about banning rotors from helicopters?

C. Everette Koop was/is a jerk too.

Why don't we ban pot smoking? Or better yet let's make it legal so we can ban it? I never knew how many people smoke it until I worked at a cigarette store and saw all the people coming in to buy ZigZags. Not people who look like drug dealers either just regular looking run of the mill people. I'd bet a retirement check that most of the people griping about second smoke, smoke pot.

My daughter has a friend who won't al cigarette smoke in her house because of the baby but has pot smoking party's in the house all the time, her guests go outside to have their cigarettes while they pass their joints around while watching a movie. My point being maybe rotorhead with all his data can explain the difference to me. I love this site!!!!

Beckymac52

Rotorhead said: " It seems most smokers are conspiracy theorists."

So, you take everything stated by the authorities as gospel?

haha Bcky said "Why don't we ban pot smoking?"

I thought we did that! can pot smokers light up in puclic now?

Damn, nobody told me!

LOL j/k

An article by Tim Fields in The Virgin Islands Daily News on Tuesday, September 25th 2007:

"Cigarette smoke appears to be bothersome to many patrons at Divi Carina Bay Casino on St. Croix, as 91 percent of patrons said they would support legislation banning smoking in public places territorywide, according to a V.I. Bureau of Economic Research survey released to The Daily News.

With legislation to ban smoking in public places being drafted in the V.I. Legislature, the V.I. Casino Control Commission requested the survey be done to show what impact a territorial smoking ban could have on casinos, Eileen Petersen, chairwoman of the commission, said."

The full article can be found here: http://www.virginislandsdailynews.com/index.pl/article_home?id=17615040

Not all people who buy zig zags are pot smokers. Knew lots of ranchers who
just rolled their own smokes. Something about the whole experience, I guess.
This thread is hysterical.

DC, Never heard of zig zags!

Blu,
Zig zags are cigarette rolling papers. There are other brands as well.
Some folks have a favorite tobacco and buy it loose, rolling their own cigs.

DreamConch,
I Think your right, cowboy's only use ziz zag , other's use Philly Blunts. ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks DS. I "kind of " know about rolling papers (looking left - looking right)....but had never heard of that brand. Whatever works for the ranchers 🙂