No I'm not from NJ. California home of the militant non-smokers. I am not saying that someone should not be able to smoke tobacco in the privacy of their own home but why should you be allowed to force your obnoxious habits on other people. I do drink, how is that related? Just because someone drinks doesn't mean that they get obnoxiously drunk.

If you want to sniff snuff or chew tobacco then that's your business, just don't force your obnoxious smell on the rest us. BTW I am also against obnoxious BO, people should bath regularly or stay at home. I prefer not to have to bring out the Lysol!

Rotorhead,
First, I have to ask where your code sign came from?

Obnoxious drunks hopefully have a d.d. Colorado is following California with the no smoking laws.

Heck, even Las Vegas is on board with no smoking. You cannot smoke where food is served and it's moving to more progressive areas in casinos. Who would of thunk. Maybe the days of carrying your oxygen tank to a smoke filled gambling casino are gone! LOL

rotorhead=helicopter pilot

Well, DAH, on my part. Thanks for clarifying.

I've been flying my little green bird around STX for 7 years now. No better way to see the islands.

Okay, I'm totally jealous. You enjoy the Paradise and it snowed here yesterday above 10,ooo ft. What's not fair about that? Oh wait...ski industry will be early...that's a good thing. See you all next spring!

Rotorhead,
Read my posts, don't confuse my posts with others, I Asked if you came from NJ, Your answered, California home of the militant-non smokers. I didn't bring up drinking by others. You said you got in the habit of carrying Lysol for a confrontation with any smoker in a Restaurant that blows smoke your way. Don't they have smoking sections in Restaurants in California? Now you bring up snuff, body odor and you prefer not to bring out the Ly so. I think your a confused person with an admitted attitude.

lizard,
My response was not directed at you as this one is. I was answering several questions from different people in a single post. I believe that if a smoker can pollute the air with his smoke then I can answer with Lysol. I said that I was from the state of militant non-smokers.

California started with smoking sections then most cities moved to total non-smoking in all public buildings and restaurants. I believe they still allow smoking in bars including restaurant bars with adequate ventilation. I don't think that I am confused at all, I am against things that assault other peoples sense of smell in public places. I mentioned snuff and chew as a method for people who have a nicotine habit to consume it without spreading an obnoxious odor.

And as for attitude you seem to have your share as well.

This is turning into a nasty thread about a nasty habit, isn't it?

Gee, Lizard, I remember it wasn't that long ago that you were complaining about people using cell phones on the beach. Seems there's often something going on there that annoys you. Maybe look for a more isolated beach---fewer people to annoy you with their behavior.

I'm a smoker of 7 years or more, and I have to tell you quitting isn't as easy as what most non-smokers think it is. My fiance' and I are moving to the U.S.V.I. come late spring and we have been trying to quit together and we have been doing really good but it has been a battle as well.
I was smoking 2 to 2 1/2 packs a day! Now I'm down to about 5 cigs a day. Thats weening off of them in about 3 weeks. We plan on opening a massage studio together there. And we don't want to offend anyone with offensive smoke odor. Plus we would rather spend the $ we burn away on something more valuable, our lives on the Islands! I too lost a parent to lung cancer, in fact I lost both. Two more reasons to quit. But what I'm really trying to say, is if someone around you is smoking, leave! Smoker's don't go out with the intentions that they are gonna ruin someones meal by smoking today! Nor do they think they are killing someone with their second-hand smoke. I had a mother-in-law who's cooking and stories would kill ya faster!
Smoking is enjoyable to most and maybe it's their only release from today's pressures. So I ask the non-smokers to not be rude when around a non-smoker at present. Ask politely for them to snuff it out or leave, because if that was me and the lady from N.J. I would have blown my smoke right in her face and told her to go back home. We smokers want excuses like that to smoke another! We like em' and its like taking your kids X-box away from them. Hope I haven't offended anyone, and have a good day. Rayofsunshine

And as far as smoking----I started smoking in my teens, became quite addicted, had to struggle very hard to stop. Haven't had a cigaret for nearly 15 years after over 20 years of smoking. After what I had to go through to stop myself from sucking toxins into my lungs, I'm not very tolerant when other peoiple are putting toxins into the air in my area.

More and more places in more and more countries are banning smoking and the bans are becoming increasingly restrictive. I think it's a very good thing. It's an idea whose time has come. Given what we know about the terrible effects of smoking, it's somewhat surprising that it's taken so long. I don't know if there are many smokers who are glad that they smoke. Most are addicted and haven't been able to stop. no smokers encourage their children to start. It's clearly not that governments took the lead on this. I think it's good to make smoking more expensive, more inconvenient, less acceptable. It may motivate some people to put the resources and energy into stopping that they've been putting into continuing smoking in an increasingly disapproving world.

But it is very hard. And like with any addiction, the smoker can get very angry, panicky, defensive when it seems that the drug they have come to need may be taken away. The change has started, though, and it's not stopping. It'll become harder and harder to continue to smoke.

Weary,
Never said people on the beach annoy me with their cell phones !Read the post again its cell phone or cell fun. And yes the lady from NJ annoyed me with her abrasive attitude.Obviously your annoyed at my annoyance.Check Mate.

rayofsunshine,
WOW!
So you believe that your right to smoke in a public place supersedes the right of those around you not to have a known carcinogen forced on them. You believe that non-smokers should leave a restaurant to show compassion for smokers. Did it ever occur to you that the smoker could go outside to smoke?

I am not sure that I agree with your statement "Smoking is enjoyable to most ". I think that smoking has been declining for years. Most smokers would like to quit, as you seem to agree, yet many do not have the willpower to do so even though close family members have died from it. Think about the non-smokers around you, they don't smoke but are being forced to inhale the carcinogens in the smoke.

The way the end started in California is that non-smokers started to sue the restaurants which allowed smoking, after all the surgeon general has determined that second hand smoke is just as harmful as smoking. Restaurant owners who allow smoking are knowingly putting their customers at risk.

From the Center for Disease Control website.
www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/Factsheets/health_effects.htm

"Smoking harms nearly every organ of the body; causing many diseases and reducing the health of smokers in general.The adverse health effects from cigarette smoking account for an estimated 438,000 deaths, or nearly 1 of every 5 deaths, each year in the United States. More deaths are caused each year by tobacco use than by all deaths from human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), illegal drug use, alcohol use, motor vehicle injuries, suicides, and murders combined."

"Secondhand smoke exposure causes heart disease and lung cancer in nonsmoking adults.
Nonsmokers who are exposed to secondhand smoke at home or work increase their heart disease risk by 25–30% and their lung cancer risk by 20–30%.
Breathing secondhand smoke has immediate harmful effects on the cardiovascular system that can increase the risk of heart attack. People who already have heart disease are at especially high risk.
Secondhand smoke exposure causes respiratory symptoms in children and slows their lung growth.
Secondhand smoke causes sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS), acute respiratory infections, ear problems, and more frequent and severe asthma attacks in children.
There is no risk-free level of secondhand smoke exposure. Even brief exposure can be dangerous."

I think that non-smokers should stand up and be intolerant of smoking around them, we should outlaw this dangerous drug in all public places.

Yeah! Stand up be intolerant, spray them with Lysol!

Rotorhead,

Just wondering how harmful the inhaled emissions from the helicopter are to your body? I would imagine it's worse then second hand smoke. Just my two cents 🙂

I love it when all of the smokers jump up to defend a nasty habit that is indefensible!

phillyguy,
The emissions from my helicopter are no more harmful than the emissions from your car. And since there are only about 5000 helicopters in the US. If you want to curtail emissions from internal combustion engines we should probably start with cars.

My helicopter does not have a warning label on the side which states "SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: Smoking Causes Lung Cancer, Heart Disease, Emphysema, And May Complicate Pregnancy. "

Smokers unite for your rights to kill yourselves and everyone around you.

Rotorhead,
I don't smoke, Thank goodness I'm allergic to Lysol.

P.S. I did say that I am a militant non-smoker! BTW helicopters don't cause over 400,000 deaths each year in the US.

"GAS 'EM WITH LYSOL"

lizard,
I've only used the Lysol a few times.