Thanks for a late night chortle after a long day's hard night from posters Xislandgirl and austinilll.

Hate to burst your bubble rant, tallen03, but none of us to whom you've responded so nastily know each other at all. Neither do any of us have any stake in any resorts here. Just simple people who know about living here and vacationing here and offer our advice.

It's really sad that you've taken such umbrage so unnecessarily. I love where I live but on the very, very rare occasion that I meet someone like you, I wish that you would vacation somewhere else other than here.

STT Resident... once again as you replied before I am surprised that you say things that really reflect whom you are. Again if you don't like or agree witht he discussion then stay out of it. Seriously big headed people really need to get a life

I checked in just to see what craziness tallen had for us. LOL - no disappointment!

SapphireBeach08 wrote:
I checked in just to see what craziness tallen had for us. LOL - no disappointment!

Got that right. LOL

Its funny to me that it has been stated that no one on here knows each other. RIGHT! That's why there are others checking in ... that's funny. If you go back to the first response it was stated that i need to do some research and read. How do you know that I hadn't already. It was also stated that I might eliminate some of my request when indeed by some of the nice people that are on here I have been able to find places with all of my request. Most importantly they are things I wanted and had no idea if I could find them or not. Its not like I said I was a princess and HAD to have these things. If a person knows what they want and they don't ask for it or look than its their fault when they don't get it. It was also stated that the VI may not be for me... That is awful presumptuous. I really wish I could look everyone of you up and have coffee when I get there. I think if you met me you would be surprised at how judgemental each one of you have been that have posted nasty and negative comments only to boost you own ego. Lets be honest what good comes out of some of the comments that have been left on here only because I simply responded with stating I thought someone had gotten snippy with me. It would have been totally different if the deliveration was different and maybe had asked me if I had read up on the information or maybe asked where have I been looking. It was assumed that I hadn't and the responses ongoing only reaffirmed that as the discussion went on.

If you met me EACH on of you would learn I am a wife, mother and friend. I am someone who would give my shirt off my back to help someone out rather I knew them or not. I have paid for part of someones groceries in line that was putting things back because they didn't have enough to pay for there bill. I am someone who got a group of 20 people together of friends and family when families had been hit by a tornado to get there family in order and payed for the bill out of me and my husbands money---- in which we do not of a lot of---- in order to get some families food and supplies considering their houses were taken by the tornado. When hurricanes hit I am always there to help by which ever way I can from the Midwest. Really people you have no idea who I am or what kind of person I am. But thank you so much for putting me down in any way that you could thank of. I hope it has made you feel better and put a smile on your face.

This hole thing is so sad to me. :...(

FYI... I was asking so many questions because it has taken my husband and I over 9 years to save for this vacation even though at times we have given out to total strangers instead of our vacation savings. But again thank you

tallen03 wrote:

Also to the others OH THE VI ARE FOR ME, simple minded j@&#$!!!! LMAO I will be laughing when I'm there and I get everything I want along with the jeep, adventure AND being pampered.

I have met one person on this board in person, ONE. That is it and that person has not responded to this post, so your assumptions about us are incorrect. We are an online community made up of people that live in the VI and many that do not. We have a sense of community, because we all share a common love of the Virgin Islnds, not because we know each other.

You called me a simple minded j@&#$!!!! Why would I ever want to help someone that insulted me?

I made my comments based on the posts that you made. I stand by those comments. The USVI are not for everyone. I would prefer someone vacation on an island that is more suited for them than to go to the VI and be unhappy. You do not have to like what I said, but you certainly had no right to call me names.

You can be charitable all you want, and I admire that, but when you call people names on an internet forum, because you don't like the answer, then what do you really expect for a response?

Good Luck to you, I am done posting on this thread. It is not about travel anymore, and I may partially be to blame for that.
I am getting back to talking about beaches and villas.

So when its turned around on you, you don't like it either. That is the point I was trying to make so I am glad to learn that you can see that now too. I am also glad that you can see where I was coming from on if you don't like the disussion or post than stop posting on that thread. I was getting jugdement from different areas, even people that wasn't involved in the conversation but the only thing it really showed was who was not being judgemental and that people of the area stick together. Which I guess isn't really a bad attribute. I am glad to see that maybe the harse words was a moment that you can see is attacking to someone else.

FYI- The harsh comments was made before I said simple minded (you fill in the blank) Personally I was thinking judgemental person but didn't want to type it all out. But again you can see when its turned around on yourself its not so fun anymore.

I would love to get back to talking about beaches which is why I started posting to begin with.
Good Luck to you and may this be a lesson for everyone involved. If not I am sorry for you, and I know I will learn because that is what life is really about. Loving and learning
Good Luck to you and yours

Please tell me what on earth was"judgmental" about my first post on this thread in response to your questions, viz:

"You're overwhelmed and I'm a little confused! You said in your first post that you wanted a "villa" on the beach, then said you didn't want a house but wanted a hut in the water and now you're looking for a resort hotel for less than $300/night which also has a whole bunch of requirements. You've been given a lot of suggestions. Secret Harbour has units on the beach, some of the Sapphire/Crystal Cove condo units are beachfront, Morningstar at Marriott Frenchman's Reef has beachfront units but I can't think of anywhere within your price range which has everything you want. I really do think you need to read up on all the general information available right here on this site so you better understand St Thomas and the way it's set up. Once you've done that you might come up with a more realistic list of requirements that might, for instance, eliminate the need for a swim-up bar, a gym and a lot of pampering."

I repeated the information I'd already given you in a previous post, suggested you do some research and narrow down your options and requirements and yet you jumped right in and referred to my response as "snippy." I apologized that you felt my response was "snippy" and yet you continued to hurl insults at me and others with absolutely no provocation whatsoever. I'm sorry you've experienced some hardships but when you bounce back to valid suggestions with unwarranted diatribes and insults to those offering their advice then there should be no surprise that those offering their well-meaning advice will respond to you accordingly. I hope your vacation here meets all your expectations and more.

OK lets go through this and maybe you will understand me a bit more.

I am getting so overwhelmed. I need a hotel in St Thomas that i can walk out of my room onto the beach. I want the hotel to have a swim up bar in the pool, a restaurant, layout areas on the beach and a gym. Any ideas. It doesn't have to be the nicest hotel because i can't spend 300 plus a night for a room but I do want to be pampered and stay in a nice place. Thanks for any help!!

In the 1st post I was saying I was overwhelmed, I was overwhelmed because there are so many things to choose from and of course like any hotel or resort they are only going to advertise their best features. I listed off things that would be nice to have per my group of people going not just personal wants or needs. I also wanted to mention that yes we want a nice place and like any person on vacation would like to be pampered but we are not made of money so it couldn't be the more expensive places either.

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You're overwhelmed and I'm a little confused! You said in your first post that you wanted a "villa" on the beach, then said you didn't want a house but wanted a hut in the water and now you're looking for a resort hotel for less than $300/night which also has a whole bunch of requirements. You've been given a lot of suggestions. Secret Harbour has units on the beach, some of the Sapphire/Crystal Cove condo units are beachfront, Morningstar at Marriott Frenchman's Reef has beachfront units but I can't think of anywhere within your price range which has everything you want. I really do think you need to read up on all the general information available right here on this site so you better understand St Thomas and the way it's set up. Once you've done that you might come up with a more realistic list of requirements that might, for instance, eliminate the need for a swim-up bar, a gym and a lot of pampering.

1st comment: You're overwhelmed and I'm a little confused! With an ! not a period or ? it makes it seem a little... well belittling.

Comment 2: "You said in your first post that you wanted a "villa" on the beach, then said you didn't want a house but wanted a hut in the water and now you're looking for a resort hotel for less than $300/night which also has a whole bunch of requirements.
You've been given a lot of suggestions."

Again it seems belittling by telling me what I have posted about what I want not to mention you are also combining a previous discussion. I didn't reply on the last discussion and started a new one for the reason of wanting them separated. A start over I guess you could say. Then telling me I have been given a lot of suggestion, as if I didn't already know that. You are being condescending and I really took offense to it so of course like anyone I replied with defense. I changed from a hut/villa whatever they are called on the water because in the other discussion I was told they are not offered in the VI so then I started asking about resorts which was another reason for starting a new discussion instead of replying on the old one that you had been posting on.

Comment 3: Secret Harbour has units on the beach, some of the Sapphire/Crystal Cove condo units are beachfront, Morningstar at Marriott Frenchman's Reef has beachfront units but I can't think of anywhere within your price range which has everything you want.
This was the most helpful thing you said in your post.

Comment 4: I really do think you need to read up on all the general information available right here on this site so you better understand St Thomas and the way it's set up.
How can you presume if I had or had not read anything on this site or another. I had but again only the best of things is advertised so that's why I started asking people that know the area.

Comment 5: Once you've done that you might come up with a more realistic list of requirements that might, for instance, eliminate the need for a swim-up bar, a gym and a lot of pampering.

OK this one took the cake after everything else. Once I've done that is a sure fire way to attack someone you don't know. Then to say once I come up with a more realistic list of requirements, you can not make me believe there was nothing condescending about that. And to tell me what to eliminate after starting the sentence off the way you did. And from other people in the discussion there are resorts with all three... a swim-up bar, a gym and pampering that I have been able to find from their suggestions. The pampering by the way is not for me but my friend Kathy.

If I can find everyone's wants in the group then that is for the better and everyone can have a dream vacation if I can't then at least I know I tried.

For what ever reason, rather it be from my other discussion or something irritated you from my first response in this discussion you became short with me on your very first post on this discussion. I do not take kindly to people becoming short with other people. Its kind of like a teacher who has been teaching the same subject for many many years and becomes short with their students, The teacher forgets that the information has become common sense to them because of teaching it for so long but its not common sense to someone who has never heard it before. You live in the area so a lot of this stuff my seem like common sense to you but for myself who has never been any where near there it is not so common sense. Yes I started off not really knowing what I wanted and then started to figure it out but then got over whelmed because there is so much offered which is why I started a new discussion. The good thing is even though there is a bad side to this whole discussion I have been able to take the suggestions and narrow my resort choices down to three resorts and they all have all of the groups expectations, which is lovely. Maybe now, at least I truly hope that you can see things a little more from my perspective.

I also have to mention again that if a person doesn't like the discussion, mine or someone else's then why not just stay off of it???? I still don't understand that but hey ???

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I originally wanted a villa or hut... whatever they are called that sits on the water but then was informed that those are not offered in the VI. I do want to be pampered but what I meant by that was I don't want a one/two star hotel that isn't nice however at the same time I don't want to stay in a resort that only the elite rich people could afford and still sleep good at night. I don't think there's a reason for you to get so snippy. This discussion board I think is for questions and excuse me but I have never been there before so YES I have a lot of questions and am trying to figure out which direction is best for me to go in. But thanks for the suggestions. FYI I have been reading but thought someone whom lives or visits the VI often would have some insight because of course a resort is only going to advertise their best features.
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I'm sorry you think my helpful advice is snippy. As said, if you look at the recommended places (surely the list I've already given is quite substantial?) and then start to narrow things down in terms of location, amenities, price, etc. you'll be offered plenty more information. Hopefully someone else will pop in and offer you some suggestions since mine seem not to be working for you.

I know I said I would not come back to this, but Tallen, I think it is time to stop belaboring this nonsense. We get that you don't feel like you were treated well.
Tone can not be conveyed on the internet, you were under the impression that it was something other than nice. Posters has said that was not the intention. You called me a name. I never called you a name. You do not have to like what I have to say, but I NEVER became nasty with you and did not deserve that in return.
I have admitted that I am partially to blame for the direction of this post and you should take responsibility as well. If you would like to continue to complain about me or other posters, feel free to send me a private message, this discussion has no place on a travel forum. And with that I am logging off the board for a few days, you have turned me off from giving advice for a while.

You are sending a tone with this message. My reply back to you was nice so please just stay off this discussion and all will be well. Again if you don't like a discussion then why get into the discussion in the first place. This started between me and another person it really didn't have room for anyone else to butt in. We are working it out I hope that you can do the same. Good Luck to you

No, in no way, shape or form was I being either condescending or belittling and, again, I apologize for so much misconstruing on your part. You're right, we're all a bunch of simple minded j@&#$s. Be content that you have had the last word from me at least and, again, I hope your stay here will meet all your expectations and more.

But You were and I except your appology even if it was given in a hateful way. I truly was hoping to explain myself in detail so that you would understand but I guess thats asking for to much. I am sorry that i wasn't to accomplish that. I really hope you have a great day and I'm sorry that you and I don;t see eye to eye or you can't see why I would have been offended.

I am excited and am sure I will find my stay to be wonderful. C u soon, well not you personally but the area.

I'm assuming that you mean that you accept (not except) my apology/apologies despite the allegedly "hateful" perceived manner of deliverance?

Just for the sake of good order, my apologies were extended to you based on your misconception of the advice I gave you but I make no apologies whatsoever regarding what I posted on your present thread or on the thread you previously started.

You asked questions and were answered but you chose to diss responders who offered you advice and, further, went into total adversarial mode quite nastily and rudely.

Posters such as you are, fortunately, very few and far between. Cheers.

as someone who works in the villa rental business, i have the opportunity to speak with many seasoned travelers, many of them whose idea of a tropical vacation is a villa on the beach for a rate that is unrealistic due to supply and demand. they usually have been to someplace outside the united states where there is a full staff and rather good lodging with a good exchange rate vs. the u.s. dollar. or, i speak with those who see a lot of ads depicting beach vacations, usually at resorts, which are more possible than a villa or private house/cabana/bungalow.

the owner of a private home (no matter how small) receives bills from the pool company, landscaper, housekeeping, propane gas company (no gas lines), water trucker (no potable water piping into the high hills), maintenance, exterminator, and manager if s/he does not manage... and an electric bill that can be in the thousands because our guests like a/c and do not conserve water the way that we do. each vendor is not an hourly employee, so it's just more expensive to even prepare for a rental.

the u.s. virgin islands are volcanic and as such, most homes are in the hills. if one does manage to build on or close to a beach, one is more likely to build a larger home but not a cottage or bungalow... families on the beach, weddings on the beach, the more the merrier on the beach.

stt resident is really a gentle spirit in real life and on this board. i realize that you do not know her or of her and the things she has done in this community, i can see how everything got off on the wrong foot - i may be wrong, but it appears to me that she did not want you to have unrealistic expectations, and like i am she is rather protective of the island's residents and businesses who are also people trying to make a living while dealing with the endless quest for "the deal". everything is naturally more expensive here, either due to supply and demand (that phrase again!) or the fact that it must be shipped in. when you visit you will see.

for the most part here, you get what you pay for. good that someone was able to hip you to something available, but as you can see, there is not a plethora of such options with everything you would prefer. i did not say "require" because it looks like you are flexible and just wanted to know what to expect.

i'm not here to defend stt resident but to try to lend some perspective to a recurring scene here.

all i can say is that these islands are well represented on the vinow boards - across the social, political and personality spectrum. it's the closest you will get to what i consider real life here without actually being here.

welcome, and enjoy your stay!

Very well stated, Anita.
And STTResident, you are a treasure to this board and your island and I have utilized your advice
on several topics.
An old expression I use is "the higher your expectations, the lower your serenity." I think this has caused
tallen to "look for " reasons to be defensive, but that is only my opinion.
I want our trip to STT to be perfect as well, but I know that my idea of perfection is probably unrealistic, THUS I
must take what I get and adapt to what is offered. I would love beach front house with a maid and a car for $150/night,
but probably won't happen. WHY? Anita explained it quite well. LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION.
Anyway, I look forward to what STT has to offer and I fully intend to take advantage of it and enjoy myself
and hopefully, HOPEFULLY, I can make my days in STT more pleasurable for those that live there as well.

When in Rome.....

STT Resident, you just couldn't help yourself could you? Yes it was accept but my phone sometimes automatically spells things and gets the wrong word. But your put down so entertaining. And yes I will accept your apology and thank you for it as well. It is really nice of you to apologize for all your mis-spoken statements and again I thank you for being open minded enough to see you wrong doings.

A Davis I have to say you are very well spoken and can see that you take things on a realistic view instead. I appreciate you explaining all those things to me. I realize why a hut would be more expensive and that really everything there is going to be more than in the states. I expect that. That is one of the other reasons I had put what we could afford in my post because some places you just aren't going to get for 300.00 a night. I didn't want people wasting their time to only find out we couldn't afford a place they were talking about. Although I will say there are a lot of places for under 300.00 a night ranging from 220.00 to 300.00. I was pleasantly surprised.

Austinill.... you just made an butt of yourself because my price was 300.00 a night not 150.00 but more importantly the price was the main point of the discussion. And of course I want to get a deal for my money. I think every person does including everyone on this board. If you were to say that you didn't you would be a liar. I don't want anyone to take from themselves because everyone has to make a living but I also don't want to be robbed so to speak. And I'm not to say the VI is like that, I am only speaking in a general sense to austinill because the post was well... stupid. But this is just my opinion and I am sure that someone will take the chance to set me straight. LOL

A Davis... it was nice chatting with you.
STT Resident... thank you again for your apology.

hi tallen03,

there really are no stupid posts, there are only opinions. some are based on experience like austinill's, stt resident's and my own, and some based on a desire to know.

all i can give is my opinion based on my experience, and you are not running a gauntlet any longer. you can relax on this board and get all the info that's available to give.

in an adjacent thread, stt resident offered to someone the two sandals by the sea b+b, which i had driven past, but did not realize what it was! http://www.twosandals.com - rooms from $120-$250 per night high season and under $100 a night low season, depending on avails. shows how much i know! *-)

OK, I'm confused, 1st Tallen said she/he & her husband had saved up for this trip for 9 years....then in a later post she/he wants all the pampering for friend Kathy? After reading the earlier posts I just assumed this person was traveling alone.
It reminds me of a visitor from several years ago who complained about the food, the only places he found to eat were, Wendys, McDonalds, & Pizza Hut ! I think he would have been happier on a cruise ship with its endless buffet.

No your assumption is incorrect, I am traveling withthree couples. It did however take my husband over nine years to save for a vacation. We are not hard to please I'm only trying to find everything everybody wants . At least as much as possible. you are only assuming and yet again someone who isn't even been in the conversation and only adding insults so agsin spreading negatively.