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 Pia
(@pia)
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Thought I would start a new thread for all who have given up following the "Truth in Forums" thread because of all the bitc**** going on.

Have heard that an arrest was made last night at 9:30pm - again not 100% that it is not another rumor but will let you know for sure as soon as I hear.

Pia

 
Posted : August 4, 2007 11:06 am
(@captkhaos)
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Can you believe the prosecutors didn't show up to court on time?!!! Didn't have their witnesses ready??!!! What a joke....It's like they're trying to send a message to law abiding citizens: ABANDON HOPE ALL YE WHO ENTER HERE!!! I'm sure I'm not the only mainlander who reads the Daily News. If I lived there I'd start packin' my bags. It's seems like the Wild West down there except it's "Cowboys and West Indians". This WILL be on national news...again and again and again. Anyone want to buy some land on St. Croix?

Good Luck,
Khaos

 
Posted : August 18, 2007 9:05 pm
(@chefcody)
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This news makes me sick. I used to live on the island for quite a while. There has been more than one time that some "white" statesider got in a verbal and then was followed when they were vulnerable and beaten to a pulp by multiple WestIndian locals. There was another incident that was swept under the rug in 2004. I wonder if this was the same guys or if it was a different group doing the exact same thing in the exact same area and bar. Locals need to realize they cant beat up everyone that lips off to them. Police have to get rid of the corruption or they are going to spoil that island. The Police are biased towards their friends and family and ignore black on white crime. IGNORE IT. That way it never really happened.

 
Posted : August 18, 2007 11:50 pm
(@jean cockayne)
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We are appaled at all the killings and unsolved crimes in the USVI and are trying very hard to find a way to help all victims all people white and black. Do you have any ideas

 
Posted : August 19, 2007 10:27 am
(@jean Cockayne)
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Please stop, not everyone beleives in justice for some. Stop talking hate and start helping. We plan on bringing light to all unsolved crimes not just our son's. Help us reach out and get justice for that dear sweet man at the ATM and the governors employee shot and stuffed in his trunk. If you have any info let us know we will try to help.

 
Posted : August 19, 2007 10:31 am
(@jean Cockayne)
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Keeping your fingers crossed as I am also. Thank you, any information anyone has regarding unsolved crimes can send it to me with dates, oficers names, what crime was committed. We are gathering for a hirricane but it isn't Dean.

 
Posted : August 19, 2007 10:36 am
(@jean Cockayne)
Posts: 1
 

The source article was full of lies but you can beleive them if you choose. Fact no MCall has not been in constant contact that is a lie. Fact if we do happen to get him on the phone once a week he tells us nothing. Fact pennington was more intersted in telling everyone how she was the first one to break the case and toot her own horn than answer larry Kings answers. The taling heads rarley agree, however one would have to search high and low to get an eduacated person to agree with the handling of this case and oh so many more by the VIPD. St John and St Thomas have the same police, the bad ones, lazy ones get sent to St John. Crimes are not solved and if you really live there you should be helping us help you

 
Posted : August 19, 2007 10:43 am
(@jean Cockayne)
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I dare you to contact SA Schmidt and have him tell you exactly how close he is working with the VIPD, not............. I dare you to call the hot line, NO ONE ANSWERS, please don't beleive the source that lasy is in ........ with the government

 
Posted : August 19, 2007 10:46 am
(@jean Cockayne)
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Ruth, I agree the scary thing is the Front Yard is NEXT to the police station and isn't it sad that this murder as you say could have happened anywhere? The owners of the Front yard do not deserve to be singled out. Jeanie

 
Posted : August 19, 2007 10:58 am
(@jeancockayne)
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vihotmess. We DO NOT want the incomptence of the VIPD to rule once again and arrest the wrong men. That is the problem, not the beautiful Island of St. john or the good people that live there. The police force is constantly shooting themselves in the foot and while doing so almost surely making sure no one pays for killing my son. What we want is real investigators, people that can read and write, answer questions in court. Justice for all. Anyone having any information regarding this or any other murder please contact me @ [email protected].
However if you get a copy of the police arrest warrant it was Selmo's good friend that put Selmo at the murder scene. yep truth is Six pack stated to police that he and Selmo chased jamie up the street. So do your homework, why would six pack implicate his buddy? Oh now that he has been housed with Selmo for more than a week I am sure they have had time to get their stories straight. GEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

 
Posted : August 19, 2007 11:15 am
(@jean Cockayne)
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cshell, the BIG difference is the murderers were brought to justice, quickly I might add in the killing you refer to. Also I am quite sure the police would cooperate with the family.

 
Posted : August 19, 2007 12:48 pm
(@bluwater)
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Folks, after a little checking, I have confidence that the person posting is really the mother of Jamie Cockayne. This is not a troll. I know someone who has been in true contact with her and her family - and they just wrote to me to tell me that this is really her posting in VINOW.

Also, her posts will make sense if you view the messages in threaded mode, rather than flat mode. She is responding to each message as she reads them.

Jeanie, more power to you! You have a great deal of support from some of the regular visitors. Our eyes are wide-open with the reality of this tragedy as we await the decision of the court.

 
Posted : August 19, 2007 5:28 pm
(@chefcody)
Posts: 1
 

Let's be honest. If you are a murder witness on St. John, you should get police protection or some type of witness protection and 'disappear' until trial time.

 
Posted : August 19, 2007 8:16 pm
(@stt-resident)
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With all due respect, Mrs. Cockayne's hijack of this thread is unseemly at best.

 
Posted : August 20, 2007 4:59 am
(@connie)
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STT, I wonder why you think it was a hijack and why do you think it inappropriate for the mother of Jamie to have her say just as many others have on this thread?

 
Posted : August 20, 2007 7:27 am
(@bluwater)
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I do find it inappropriate and dangerous to name a potential witness on a message board...especially given the fact that witnesses are being threatened on the island, as usual.

However, I find it most interesting and revealing that in all that is wrong, dangerous, foul and outright horrifying about this case and all of the others like it in the VI, what is getting attention from some of the local residents is how the mother of the victim is reacting to it on a message board. Very enlightening. Accusing her of hijacking a thread because she responded to 5 pages of posts about her murdered son is ridiculous - and symptomatic of the overall issue.

 
Posted : August 20, 2007 12:28 pm
(@dreamconch)
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Guess it's not so tidy as sweeping it under the rug.

 
Posted : August 20, 2007 12:36 pm
(@iheartsstjohn)
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Was going to respond earlier but didn't want to bump this up. Since some cannot seem to grasp the fact that this is a travel board not a social-justice board a reminder might be necessary. There is crime in the world, get it? Terrible things happen, get it? "Justice" is not always served as promptly as you may want and in the way you want.
I cannot understand the mother's (if it is the mother) necessity of answering every question or post or her intent. If she wants support then she should find one in her local community and not seek out occassional visitors and a few local residents to air her version of the events of that night and the following days thinking that somehow this attention will make anything different. It dishonours all the good people who live and work in the USVI. Since she has chosen to announce names and places, it is no wonder police do not want to give out information to be shared with everyone. A horrid thing has happened and lives have changed forever. It is not sweeping it under the rug by any definition but a travel board is not the place to air these grievances.

 
Posted : August 20, 2007 1:11 pm
(@connie)
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Was going to respond earlier but didn't want to bump this up.
Since some cannot seem to grasp the fact that this is a travel board not a social-justice board a reminder might be necessary. There is crime in the world, get it? Terrible things happen, get it? "Justice" is not always served as promptly as you may want and in the way you want.

--I don't think you "get it". This board has been on every subject you could possibly imagine. Since this is the Virgin Island message board, and it happened in St. John, it is relevant.--

I cannot understand the mother's (if it is the mother) necessity of answering every question or post or her intent. I

--Could it be possible that she is desperate. Have you lost a child? Do you know how she feels? And, by the way, it IS the Mother, so some respect, if any, should be shown to her.--

f she wants support then she should find one in her local community and not seek out occassional visitors and a few local residents to air her version of the events of that night and the following days thinking that somehow this attention will make anything different.

--If you're from St. John, maybe you could gain some support for her from the people that live there. New Hope is a long way from St. John and where she needs the support is from the people who live there. What about your community?--

It dishonours all the good people who live and work in the USVI.

--What dishonered the people who live and work in St. John is not supporting this family and inquiring why your police force seems to be so inept at closely following this case and other cases that have happened in this territory. St. John has a coconut telegraph. Why did it take so long for somebody to come forward. I bet you alot of people knew who did it, but 6-7 weeks later???--

Since she has chosen to announce names and places, it is no wonder police do not want to give out information to be shared with everyone. A horrid thing has happened and lives have changed forever. It is not sweeping it under the rug by any definition but a travel board is not the place to air these grievances.

--When you lose a child, you will do ANYTHING it takes to get answers and to try to solve a crime that obviously has been botched by the police. Until YOU lose a child, you have no way of knowing what somebody goes through when that happens.--

Bottom line is the accused decided to pull a knife. What ever happened to good old fists to settle an argument. Say what you want. These people were brutal murderes.

 
Posted : August 20, 2007 1:27 pm
(@lheartsstjohn)
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--I don't think you "get it". This board has been on every subject you could possibly imagine. Since this is the Virgin Island message board, and it happened in St. John, it is relevant.--

There is a multitude of subjects that haven't been touched and the crime rate is not one that is ignored. This is a vacation message board. Multiple times I have seen numerous warnings about being out and about late at night alone. (I am not blaming the victim since no one deserves to be murdered for doing it).

--Could it be possible that she is desperate. Have you lost a child? Do you know how she feels? And, by the way, it IS the Mother, so some respect, if any, should be shown to her.--

It is irrelevant if I have lost a child and your presumptious to ask. Do you know how she feels? Do you know what she thinks? Do you know the burden that she will carry with her the rest of her life? Not until you walk in her shoes can you know or even guess. There was absolutely no disrespect for her and, of course, she is angry and desperately wants her son's murders found guilty. But this is not the place where that will happen.

--If you're from St. John, maybe you could gain some support for her from the people that live there. New Hope is a long way from St. John and where she needs the support is from the people who live there. What about your community?--

New Hope is a long way from St. John but the rest of your statement makes no sense. There are people in the St. John community who have reached out but this board is not a support group and the support she needs is from her friends. family and those close to her.

--What dishonered the people who live and work in St. John is not supporting this family and inquiring why your police force seems to be so inept at closely following this case and other cases that have happened in this territory. St. John has a coconut telegraph. Why did it take so long for somebody to come forward. I bet you alot of people knew who did it, but 6-7 weeks later???--

Since you seem to know it all, why don't you solve the crime. Tell us who they are. People may know but the only thing that counts is the proof. Took so long? The court system is far from perfect anywhere but unfortunatley the information on the coconut telegraph is like playing telephone when you were a kid and not evidence in court. You judge everyone but yourself and your mindset is the only correct one. The only people who know are the people that were involved with the stabbing so it is unlikely we'll ever know what really happened that night.

--When you lose a child, you will do ANYTHING it takes to get answers and to try to solve a crime that obviously has been botched by the police. Until YOU lose a child, you have no way of knowing what somebody goes through when that happens.--

--Again you have no idea what or who I have lost. No mother should ever have to bury a child - even when the child is a grown adult. I have a great deal of empathy for her as does everyone.

Bottom line is the accused decided to pull a knife. What ever happened to good old fists to settle an argument. Say what you want. These people were brutal murderes.

Bottom line is that violence is never an answer whether it be fists or a knife or a pool stick. What may have started by an argument about things that lead to a kick to a car that had a horrific and barbaric ending. All your imagination and all the yelling (yes, I noticed the caps) isn't really helping anyone.

 
Posted : August 20, 2007 2:12 pm
(@cleanupthevi)
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Go Mom!

Make the police do their job. If STJ wants to keep tourism then the police need to protect the tourists. If a bar 100 feet from the police station is not a safe place to go then how is a tourist supposed to know where to go? Do you publish directories of safe and non-safe places. Many have said that this bar was a drug hang-out. Are they being watched over by the police next door. Or is STJ the wild west where thugs and criminals rule?

Never forget!

 
Posted : August 20, 2007 2:15 pm
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